Good Doesn't Always Win, Evil Doesn't Always Lose.

Is that +2 or +3 LA or whatever include racial HDs?

sounds interesting. im in.

Grats, someone else playing an evil campaign?

Why do I see so few of them around? There should be less, sure, but everyone seems to.... hate evil... *shrugs*

I'll be in if everything works out, what time, time zone, day etc are we looking at?

*grins evilly* I've been waiting for a game like this to start, got a character nice and ready

-MultiRP

[quote="multirp"]Grats, someone else playing an evil campaign?

Why do I see so few of them around? There should be less, sure, but everyone seems to.... hate evil... *shrugs*

I'll be in if everything works out, what time, time zone, day etc are we looking at?

*grins evilly* I've been waiting for a game like this to start, got a character nice and ready

-MultiRP[/quote]

Not sure what time, im in pst, but have an insanely open scedual, so far i only have anything happening tuesday and friday(Friday im unavailible after 2pm my time, tuesday im unavailible from 2-4pm my time, and before noon...)
Except next week where i have to go in tuesday, wendsday and thursday, but ill see how much that lasts (ill still be home 4pm pst, and pleanty availible.) (damn star testing, right when i bore of stupid tests they made it 95% of school pop required... and our school is already on the failed 2 years in a row list...)

[quote="Paddon"]Is that +2 or +3 LA or whatever include racial HDs?[/quote]

its there to counterbalance with the "high" LA of the race, so its part of the race, not the cost of getting it. However, remember, all races require dm approval. As do most classes. (all cept the phb classes...)

Whenabouts are you planning on starting it?

At the moment, I'm still dead in the water as far as OPnP is concerned, so just pencil me in. Lightly. With an 8H pencil. But I will [i]gladly[/i] get in on it if I can.

*muses quietly* now where did I put him...?

On another subject entirely why does 2-3 have to be from LA? Just curious, not trying to get away with anything. If you can't say, then don't.

-MultiRP

[quote="multirp"]Grats, someone else playing an evil campaign?

Why do I see so few of them around? There should be less, sure, but everyone seems to.... hate evil... *shrugs*[/quote]

Well, Saber's Goblin campaign a few months back was an evil campaign of sorts (of course, we played the peons of evil, but still). However, it kinda died on account of players sucking at tactics.

I'm not really interested in this one, though, don't feel like playing an LA PC. I like to stick to the basic races. (No big loss anyway, I doubt I'd be able to free up any time to play, for a month or so anyway.)

I will play until summer comes around, and then maybe on Saterday. This should be interesting, as I usually don't pick a non-standard race. Other then that, hells of fun, as Psionics often are.

Bit of a change, read main post again, sorry...

I am definitely in. Now, if I can just find where I put that ACK!! *ducks* Yep, there's that wand of pyromaniac's glee I made a while back.

*sniffs the air a bit* I think Guy's here...

Sorry, was just looking at the inferno happening *points to Paddon* reminds me of someone...

Ahem, anyway, will work on my character. When you need the background by, Rogue?

-MultiRP

i know i post this at the risk of looking extremely stupid but what is LA

Lets look stupid together. I dont understand the LA so can i just u my char and you adjust? And what campaign world is this? and about the exp, how do you "spend" it as such?

Level Adjustment.

Some races are more powerful than the 'normal' races, and so get a virtual 'level adjustment', which makes them level up slower.

So, for a Tiefling, for instance, which has a Level Adjustment of +1, when you are a 1st level character, you are actually 2nd level. 1 level from the race, and 1 from the class. This means that in order to go from 1st level fighter to 2nd level fighter as a Tiefling, you really need to go from 2nd level character to 3rd level character.

Note: All bonuses based on class refer to [i]class[/i] level. However, anything that goes off of [i]character[/i] level really goes off of ECL (Effective Character Level), which is your total levels in race and class.

Again, for instance, you have a 1st level Tiefling (LA +1). That character is a 1st level fighter, but a 2nd level character. Thus, anything that wants to work off of class levels 'sees' it as a 1st level fighter. If it wants to go off of character level, however, it is a 2nd level character.

The distinction is usually a fine one. The difference between character level and class level is non-existant most of the time unless you are multiclassing.

Here's another way which might make it easier for you: Again using the Tiefling as an example. Think of the LA +1 from being a Tiefling as a seperate class for the purposes of figuring up the difference.

In this way, I have a character. The character is a Tiefling 1/Fighter 1. When s/he goes up a level, s/he becomes a Tiefling 1/Fighter 2. I can't raise the Tiefling level, but it can be there as a 'virtual' multiclass to make things easier to understand. Now, there are some rare critters (Thri-Kreen come to mind) that [i]can[/i] increase in 'monster' levels, but that is likely beyond the scope of this. For now, you can assume a few things to make it easier until you fully understand it.

1) The 'monster' level is a seperate class from any classes that you take (as in my Tiefling 1/Fighter 1 example)

2) Your 'monster' level never impacts true multiclass. That is to say, it functions as another favored class.

3) When you go up a level, you are unable to take a level in your 'monster' class, since you are that race and it (generally) can't improve.

4) When you go up a level, you are are actually ('monster level' + 'class level) level when it deals with your character level. When you are dealing with Class level, there is no change. A Tiefling 1/Fighter 1 is a 1st level fighter, but a 2nd level character.

5) The experience points that you need to go up a level are governed by your ECL, not your class level. Here is the formula:
Effective Character Level (ECL) = 'monster' level + class level (though in reality it is something like:
'monster level' + template adjustment + total of all class levels, but I simplified it for this case.)

Did that help, or confuse the bejesus outta you?

-MultiRP

Ok, now go over the races that CAN improve themselves. Thri-kreen, Dragons, etc.

[quote="multirp"]Did that help, or confuse the bejesus outta you?

-MultiRP[/quote]

Both!

Heh.

There are only a few races that are able to increase in strength from race 'levels' Thri-Kreen are one of the few. Dragons don't grow by adding levels so much as natural aging.

Now, when a Thri-Kreen goes up a level, you have the option to add class levels or race levels. Though I personally limit them to class levels only. Race levels represents a stronger, wiser, older specimen.

However, all of the creatures that you could raise via Race levels are way too high to use in this campaign.

And I apologize that it did both to you. You need more clarification? Just tell me with what and I will do what I can.

-MultiRP

But if we choose Dragons, are we able to improve them at all?

Dragons, well, I doubt you can choose them. Remember, I'm just a lowly player in the game. I know when I DM there is no way you'd be able to choose a dragon.

I suppose you could give dragons race levels to go up age catergories, but they are mainly tied to age. But, as rule 0 says "The rules are merely suggestions", your DM's word could best be declared 'law'

Though it would be best to not worry about the whole race advancment issue. The Thri-Kreen, in my games at least, require about 13 or so level character to even begin to play, with a 0th level class character.

Dragons would be quite a bit worse.

-MultiRP

Back in the early days of OPnPW I was all about the evilness.. I started a gaming group for evil-specific characters called "eVile" but it died quickly.. I am definitelt in! I heart the evilies! Plus I have a few ideas for some purely fucked up charries.. Ill get back to you when I have made something...

Um, mind putting up the point-buy system? I can never remember it nor find it.
16 points for 18, 2 for 10, and 0 for 8 are all that I can remember.

So you can't play a human?

Paddon,
Point buy is on page 169 of the DMG, but here is the system. The way it is situated will be the cost to go from an 8 in the ability to the desired ability point.

Ability - Cost
9 - 1
10 - 2
11 - 3
12 - 4
13 - 5
14 - 6
15 - 8
16 - 10
17 - 13
18 - 16

-MultiRP

[Edit] On a side note all, I am back in OPnP! Fear me as you fear... well... ah... me. [/Edit]

I think I'm in. :P

Ok well i definately dont need any more people... lol.

Paddon
Shrike
MultiRP
Rook

Are all definately in... i may end up going to 6 players lol.

Sorry yurith, dont got room for ya...

Meluub, contacting ya... Not a clue how often your online.

Muddy... Contacting ya, havent seen you round much... so yah.

I've been online almost daily, just havent been using Trillian because its been a fucktard recently... Anywho, I have yet to check my PM, so I will read that before saying anything further.